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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610644">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey so I was trying to upgrade to Ubuntu-server 20.04 and now the network interface won't work. Anybody here have any idea how to go about diagnosing and fixing things? It just seems to timeout on startup -- there is a <code>/etc/netplan/50-netboot.conf</code> file or something like that, but it has very little data. I downloaded and tried to re-run the Ubuntu installer from scratch, but that would erase the entire disk...I could probably live with that but I'd rather not. (Though the installer does seem to have no problem accessing eth0 :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610661">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> tells me I should switch to arch which is...probably true.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610677" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610677">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>but again something I'd rather not do at this moment :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610725">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>What does <code>ip link</code> show</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610762" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610762">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205610661">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> tells me I should switch to arch which is...probably true.</p>
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<p>There are probably more compiler folks on NixOS now but that's not as simple a switch.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610872" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610872">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>one sec, I'll dump the output</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610882">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>have to reboot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610914">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe it showed me that eth0 (and eno1) were both "down"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610933">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>(eth0 seems to be the correct interface)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205610977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205610977">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>And whats in the files in <code>/etc/netplan</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611013" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611013">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>This is a very basic dhcp config for netplan</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>network:
    ethernets:
        enp4s0:
            addresses: []
            dhcp4: true
    version: 2
</code></pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611084">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>it was basically that, but without the <code>addresses: []</code> and with <code>s/enp4s0/eth0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611103" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611103">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>does <code>netplan apply</code> output anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611107">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's still booting, it takes a while because it has to timeout in the "Wait for network to be configured" step</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611130" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611130">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe the update renamed the adapter</p>



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<p>iirc it did output <em>something</em>, but I'll have to reboot to remember what :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611183" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611183">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>(although that may have been when I was tinkering and trying to change <code>eth0</code> to <code>eno1</code> to see if that helped with anything)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611212">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>the newer ubuntu's all like things like <code>eno1</code> and <code>enp4s0</code> they have something to do with the internal numbering of devices i believe in linux versus the old <code>eth0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611283">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, so, netplan apply outputs nothing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611315">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>What about <code>ip link</code></p>



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<p>the 50-cloud-init.yaml file is:</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code><span class="nt">network</span><span class="p">:</span>
    <span class="nt">ethernets</span><span class="p">:</span>
        <span class="nt">eth0</span><span class="p">:</span>
            <span class="nt">dhpc4</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="l l-Scalar l-Scalar-Plain">true</span>
    <span class="nt">version</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="l l-Scalar l-Scalar-Plain">2</span>
</code></pre></div>



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<p>iplink output shows:</p>
<ul>
<li>lo</li>
<li>eno1</li>
<li>eth0</li>
</ul>



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<p>with <code>state DOWN</code> for the latter two, along with various other things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611405">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>try changing the netplan file to <code>eno1</code> from <code>eth0</code> and do <code>netplan apply</code></p>



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<p>ok</p>



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<p>that did not output anything either</p>



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<p>and the <code>ip link</code> output appears unchanged</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611549">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>i cant remember if it outputs anything. <br>
 whats the output of <code>ip addr</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611625">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems roughly the same as <code>ip link</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611651">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe I need to do someting like <code>ip set eno1 up</code>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611676" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611676">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>i think its <code>ip link set eno1 up</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611677" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611677">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I do think <code>eth0</code> is correct, though, because when I re-ran the installer, it showed me both interfaces but <code>eth0</code> was the one that had a successful DHCP configuration)</p>



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<p>oh ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611786">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, setting both eno1 and eth0 up didn't seem to have any effect</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611792">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me grumbles</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611804">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>now try <code>dhcpcd eth0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611812" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611812">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>and see if that does anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611831" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611831">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I have that command</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611849">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>dhclient?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611864">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh. that must have changed in newer ubuntu</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611871" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611871">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea dhclient should work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611890">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>with eth0 it says "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611902" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611902">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>with etno1 it just kind of hangs indefinitely :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611984" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611984">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh hey</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205611996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205611996">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if I change back to eth0</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612000">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>and re-run netplan apply</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612007">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <code>ip link set eth0 up</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612012">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <code>dhclient eth0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612021">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>then I can <code>ping</code> <a href="http://google.com">google.com</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612035">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>huh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612040">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>thats progress</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612071" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612071">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>something like progress, yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612095">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>haha. does the machine only have one network interface?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612110">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612114">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>just wired ethernet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612121" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612121">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, there are two ports though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612132" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612132">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>(so presumably one is eno1? I don't know.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612146">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612152" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612152">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do you need <code>netplan generate</code> before <code>netplan apply</code>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612159" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612159">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if .. eth0 was supposed to be renamed to eno0?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612204">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>or was incompletely renamed or something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612226" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612226">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="203546">Laurențiu Nicola</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205612152">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you need <code>netplan generate</code> before <code>netplan apply</code>?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>maybe? I don't really know what these commands do :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612231">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>i bet if you did a fresh install it would do something like that. they might have a mechanism to keep the old name</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612271">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205612226">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="203546">Laurențiu Nicola</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205612152">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you need <code>netplan generate</code> before <code>netplan apply</code>?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>maybe? I don't really know what these commands do :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Me neither, I use Arch <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span> .</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612293">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>netplan also takes a <code>--debug</code> option you could try that with apply</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612309">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205612114">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>just wired ethernet</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You can usually <code>rg</code> for them in the <code>dmesg</code> output</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612383" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612383">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>huh, there's not much there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612401">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>one interesting this is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612409">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li><code>eno1: renamed from eth0</code></li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612425">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li><code>added PHC on eth0</code></li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612447" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612447">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then some stuff that looks like it's just dumping information...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612595">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>with it working if you do <code>ip addr</code> is the address associated  with <code>eth0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612718">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, looks like <code>netplan apply</code> automatically runs <code>netplan generate</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612769">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll let you know, I just tried rebooting to see if I can reproduce that working setup with less intermediate changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205612930" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205612930">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, so, this time <code>dhclient</code> said "EOF on xxx which is empty", but it still worked, and yes the address is associated with <code>eth0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613067">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>One option would be to just follow the first part of this <a href="https://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/mini-howtos/change-default-network-name-ens33-to-old-eth0-on-ubuntu-16-04.html#:~:text=Look%20for%20%E2%80%9CGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX%E2%80%9D%20and%20add,%3D0%20biosdevname%3D0%E2%80%9C.&amp;text=Generate%20a%20new%20grub%20file%20using%20the%20following%20command.&amp;text=Edit%20the%20interface%20file%20and,static%20IP%20address%20for%20ethX.">LINK</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613083">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>that basically reverts to the old behavior</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613109" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613109">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>it seems like something with that rename isn't working, but I've never seen that before</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613135">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Andrew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613294">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you do <code>rg eth0 /etc/udev</code>, does it return anything?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613498">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, missed that, I tried following those grub steps, we'll see if it works I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613513">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did try <code>rg eno1 /</code> and found various weird things but nothing I really understood</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613525">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>it looking maybe some error was occurring as part of the rename</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613550" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613550">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Try that rg eth0 command out of curiosity</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613568">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks like the grub steps didn't work, we'll see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613581">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>still timing out :(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205613653" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205613653">(Jul 31 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>does eno1 show up after a reboot after doing the grub change and running grub-mkconfig</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615292">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry, got pulled off by something local :) I'll check, but I'm starting to think I should just reinstall from scratch</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615302">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>and never upgrade again :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615428" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615428">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can't blame you. I avoid upgrading in place unless I think i have to.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615456" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615456">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I used to but I figured "I bet it works by now"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615471" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615471">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="326748">Andrew</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205613294">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>if you do <code>rg eth0 /etc/udev</code>, does it return anything?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>no</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615494">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>luckily it's really just a bunch of git checkouts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615498">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>so no real data lost</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615504">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe some stashes but I don't think I had much in progress even</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615559">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="130314">drewkett</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205613653">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>does eno1 show up after a reboot after doing the grub change and running grub-mkconfig</p>
</blockquote>
<p>no</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615571" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615571">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>but then, ... neither does eth0?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615636">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh well that seems like a problem</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615648">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615695">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think you've reached my limit of linux networking knowledge. Almost certainly worth a fresh install at this point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615709">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah....thanks all for bearing with me!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615745">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>once it gets to editing grub cfg files that's kind of my limit...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615901" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615901">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd imagine for most people (myself included) with grub its copy stuff from a site and cross your fingers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205615932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205615932">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205615494">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>luckily it's really just a bunch of git checkouts</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You can back up <code>/home</code> and <code>/etc</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205616073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205616073">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I could. but eh it's ok, sometimes it's nice to wipe out and start fresh :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205616075" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205616075">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or at least leave <code>/home</code> like it is if it's on a separate partition. Although I'm a bit paranoid about it, last time I tried "Reinstall existing Ubuntu installation" formatted and repartitioned my entire drive without further confirmation <span aria-label="confused" class="emoji emoji-1f615" role="img" title="confused">:confused:</span> .</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205616254" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205616254">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea, i would be very careful about making partitions to keep data and running the installer. Really high risk of it getting wiped at install unless you're paying close attention</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205619349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205619349">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh, well, ran the installer but that didn't work either :'(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205619356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205619356">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I give up, maybe I WILL Try arch!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205619785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205619785">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I found Arch to have problems in certain scenarios. Something about its configuration makes the kernel behave not super well in memory pressure situations and my EFISTUB boot setup broke one time too many recently, that I decided to just install nixos.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205619982" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205619982">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>That said, I found out that Ubuntu on at least GCP also behaves that way. It just enters this weird hang state where its doing something and saturating disk I/O, probably swapping in/out executable code every instruction</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205620124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205620124">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Having used arch a lot I wouldn’t go there unless you’re sure. I would probably jump to fedora next. I had better luck with it’s installer than Ubuntu on a machine I had</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205620397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205620397">(Jul 31 2020 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="123586">nagisa</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205619785">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I found Arch to have problems in certain scenarios. Something about its configuration makes the kernel behave not super well in memory pressure situations and my EFISTUB boot setup broke one time too many recently, that I decided to just install nixos.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I've had some issues with Firefox crashing and <code>systemd-coredump</code> to make a core dump, even if disabled (it still runs, makes the dump, then decides to throw it away). And on OOM crashes, that was bad luck since there's no memory for the dump. But other than that, it's been pretty stable for me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205632092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205632092">(Jul 31 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="130314">drewkett</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205620124">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Having used arch a lot I wouldn’t go there unless you’re sure. I would probably jump to fedora next. I had better luck with it’s installer than Ubuntu on a machine I had</p>
</blockquote>
<p>don't worry, I've already made <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> regret of the idea of going with Arch <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205638429" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205638429">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like as (seemingly) the only dev on openSUSE, I must spread the word. Alas, Zulip's gecko is an ugly brown <span aria-label="gecko" class="emoji emoji-1f98e" role="img" title="gecko">:gecko:</span> and not a beautiful green like "Geeko" the openSUSE gecko is.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205638574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205638574">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>On  a more serious note, my openSUSE Tumbleweed install has been rock solid over the past two years. The BTRFS + snapper integration with the package manage is also really nice (you get automatic filesystem level snapshots before and after installing packages) and has saved me from having to fix the system once or twice.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205638799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205638799">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Good to know. I haven't touched openSUSE in 10 years and back then it was a bit rough. I also didn't know anything back then so that's probably the real issue <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639274">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Huh. My Zulip gecko is green!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639287">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="/user_uploads/4715/WftmucymBfekr_Hy5dn5C9_A/image.png">image.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639557">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>the end of my exciting saga here is that I would up with Debian</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639568">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>for .. I don't know if there is any particular reason</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639589" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639589">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>except that ubuntu wasn't working and arch was terrifying :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639639">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>but debian seems to work thank goodness</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639738">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh there is one weird thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639782" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639782">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>the output of <code>ip link</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639815" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639815">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>1: lo: &lt;LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP&gt; mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eno1: &lt;BROADCAST,MULTICAST&gt; mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether ac:1f:6b:7c:33:f8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: rename3: &lt;BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP&gt; mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether ac:1f:6b:7c:31:74 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
</code></pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639825" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639825">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>rename3</code>???</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639829">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have no idea what's up with that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639936">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>haha, thats a new one. But networking is working?</p>



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<p>right</p>



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<p>I wonder if that's somehow related, or just...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205639997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205639997">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Might be related <a href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/354783/why-is-network-interface-loaded-as-rename3">https://askubuntu.com/questions/354783/why-is-network-interface-loaded-as-rename3</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640079" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640079">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>i wonder if ubuntu tried renaming eth0 to eno1 but it got clobbered by the second adapter. and this works around it by making it rename</p>



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<p>are there changes here that could persistent even when installing a fresh install?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640094">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I was wondering the same thing)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640101">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have no real idea where these device names come from...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640175" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640175">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think the naming is persistent across installs of the os. Maybe there is something screwy with bios or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640243">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="shrug" class="emoji emoji-1f937" role="img" title="shrug">:shrug:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640250" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640250">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>i guess the thing to try if you have a time machine would be to disable the second NIC and try a boot of ubuntu</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640258" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640258">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>What version of debian did you install?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640266" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640266">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>whatever downloaded by default...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640267">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>doesn't seem like a good use of a time machine though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640327">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>only thing to watch out for with debian is sometimes the packages lag quite a bit if you want to try something new. There are various workarounds though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640453">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>From what I'm seeing, it looks like the <code>rename{n}</code> thing is coming from <code>udev</code> on boot.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640488">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>For example: <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg01453.html">https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg01453.html</a> and <a href="https://serverfault.com/questions/847157/loopback-interface-is-renamed-to-rename1">https://serverfault.com/questions/847157/loopback-interface-is-renamed-to-rename1</a></p>



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<p>If your network is working though, I don't think it will hurt anything to leave it that way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205640701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> drewkett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205640701">(Jul 31 2020 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we could have tried looking for udev rules for eno1 before. But I second the advice that if it works don't touch it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205641314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205641314">(Jul 31 2020 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Glad you ended up with a working solution eventually. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205641339" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205641339">(Jul 31 2020 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>FWIW, if you need something newer on Debian, there's <a href="https://backports.debian.org/">https://backports.debian.org/</a> .</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205641471" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205641471">(Jul 31 2020 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>not the way I meant to spend my day today, but oh well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux%20netplan%20experts%3F/near/205665907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F.html#205665907">(Aug 01 2020 at 05:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/linux.20netplan.20experts.3F/near/205639825">said</a>:</p>
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<p><code>rename3</code>???</p>
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<p><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1578141">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1578141</a> points to the firmware, but that's server hardware</p>



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